Interview: What’S UGHLY!? A Sneak Peek Teaser With Intrinzik & Crossworm About New LP

September 2016 Vandala Magazine Interview Intrinzik and CrosswormIntrinzik has been keeping the underground hip-hop scene alive for nearly fifteen years! His band Fall Guy toured with Twiztid and even performed in Austin, Texas via SXSW alongside Hatebreed and Mushroomhead. Mr. INT is also the founder of Underground Hustlin; which is one the longest running and one of the most successful hip-hop compilations within the underground to date! Kool Keith, Celph-Titled, Esham, and even Wrekonize (Strange Music) have hosted UGH! Currently, Intrinzik is preparing to release his next E.P. titled “UGHLY” and sound engineering pioneer “Crossworm” is producing the whole E.P.! This double interview is to give fans a teaser of what UGHLY is all about and how the release will in fact shake the underground to it’s core!

By Chad Thomas Carsten 
From September 2016 Vandala Magazine

Can we get into how UGHLY came to be and how it reflects society as a whole?

Intrinzik: I originally was trying to do like a Separated at Birth kind of deal. Like with a newer set of artists originally when I bought the fundraising package from Crossworm. My initial intention was to have it be an album with Me, Insane Loc, Mr. Grey, McNastee, and Snap; that didn’t really go as planned. But all of those people are on the album. Some of that is on there, but then some of it is just me. I believe it’s only six songs. The name of the album was actually going to be the name of the original group, but then it just changed into my own record. It was just hard to focus on everything at one time and try to get everyone together on the same page. It took up a lot of time for other projects, so that’s what took so long. Another aspect of the whole thing; I wasn’t originally going to put any guitar on it until I got a hold of Driver Williams, who is now the guitar player for Country super-star Eric Church. He was in the studio with a guy I was working with in Nashville, TN and they laid down some tracks for me.

This was with one of the biggest producers of all time, I met him through family and I had Driver go over there to check out this guy’s new studio. Then as a favor I got Driver on a few tracks. Driver went back on tour and then I got my bro Larry (Who did most of the newer guitar for Fall Guy and Separated At Birth.) to help out. And then I had the guitarist of Strung-Out, (who’ve I’ve built a great relationship with over the years.) who happened to be in Phoenix and he came over and just knocked it out! This was Christmas of last year. The whole thing was not planned and came together righteously! I kept the name UGHLY too because Crossworm liked it. Symbolically it was an ugly process getting it together and Crossworm is still setting up a new studio. The original fundraiser was to help build up his old studio to produce. And now he is putting together and even better one! We’re looking to release UGHLY October 10th. Ya know 10/10, it’s sorta like a binary code because there is a lot of transhuman type of references on the record. The whole process is ugly but beautiful at the same time!

You and Crossworm have known each other online for quite a few years. Are we able to discuss your personal friendship?

Intrinzik: Him and I have been around the scene for so long and we see all the new trends come and go, so on that level we sorta relate to one another. Mencaide was doing all that stuff on the old website and obviously with me working with McNastee on his releases and Heavy Hittaz and of course Menacide hosting UGH; and then when Menacide starting turning over to Crossworm, that’s sorta where a lot of people (me included.) figured out who Crossworm was early on. I was a fan of Crossworm’s music because he was refreshingly different. In 2009 he produced a song for me on that years Devilz Nite compilation. That was our first collaboration and I think it was our last collaboration until recently. I liked that song on Devilz Nite. Either you loved it or you hated it. With my stuff, people either love it or hate it. I think it’s the same thing with Crossworm. But yea it was through, but he’s sorta reclused and I’ve never met him in person. But we would always chat. He’s real dry and sometimes cynical with his uncle Crossworm videos. I totally relate to that! UGHLY is our first major thing together! But we’re in discussion about the possibility of using my infrastructure to put out his next record. It’s definitely been a slow relationship, but it’s definitely not a bad one! It definitely has big room to expand upon!

Can we discuss the track “Vacate the Building” from UGHLY and how it became to be?

Intrinzik: When I got the beat, Celph Titled was hosting UGH. Recently now when I network with hosts, I try to work out a better deal and get a hook or verse with the hosting package, just to get the artist a bit more money and to give me a little bit more mileage for the host’s time. Celph Titled threw the hook down and from there Daniel Jordan was over for some reason and said, “I have the perfect verse for that!” and his verse starts out with a call the police thing and I responded with,“Dude! Let’s put that in the beginning of the song because that’s a catchy thing and it’s such a police state in our society lately!” Insane Loc did a verse to it, but the beat was too fast for him. He’s more of a slow-type rapper. So I reached out to J-Reno in Canada and we hadn’t did anything in awhile and I asked him what he thought about it and Reno went straight to it! Larry threw down the guitar and bass on there and it became a rock ‘n’ roll type anthem!

What’s the main goal you want to accomplish with UGHLY and the future of INT?

Intrinzik: I just want it to come out, dude and see what happens! But also to be financially independent within the next 12-18 months, so then I dedicate my life to be a hundred percent of constantly releasing music and compilations. That’s where I’m headed now. Underground Hustlin probably has about 5-10 years left in it, because there are so many artists left who haven’t hosted yet. For sure going to keep that going. I’m definitely going to keep the animated videos and cyphers, going along with what UGH is about to do too. I have to keep getting inspired at this point because I probably already have over 125 songs on I-Tunes at this point, so I have to stay inspired and I’m constantly reading books and researching things and keep trying to come up with an approach that no one is taking in hip-hop in general. I have a lot of transhuman type songs.

I’m working on a lot of songs, but I have to make sure things are fresh and innovative. I can’t just keep doing the same thing. The health and detox inspiration for others will be a main priority too. I’m building a yoga brand with one of my very close friends who is like an Amazon digital marketing genius. I’ve been involved with Yoga for quite awhile now and I’ve noticed that the problem with the Yoga scene in my opinion they’ve sorta mind-f*cked themselves into thinking everything is so positive. So I got into that scene and realized that the underground hip-hop scene is actually more open minded. It’s like I’m too horrorcore for the Yoga scene, but the underground hip-hop cats and even the bigger artists are following with what I’m doing in the health area of detoxing because they want to be more healthy. The hip-hop heads understand where we’re going as a society is dangerous with wearing all these electronic tracking technology. The Yoga scene seems to ignore /aren’t hip about where mankind is going to end up because of the daily use of technology. I’m trying to merge both spectrums; the whole light and dark together.

What makes UGHLY appealing to the masses?

Crossworm: If talent were enough, then I would say that. But that combined with all the variables, it’s truly a big picture record. I started producing these instrumentals a couple years ago and we’ve been building the album slowly, leaving no stone unturned. Intrinzik’s layered this album with intelligent thought, entertaining jabs, high level guest features, and instrumentals that have made this a BIG sounding record!

Lyrically, what verse from Intrinzik first captured your attention?

Crossworm: It didn’t happen that way. I’ve known Intrinzik through the scene since his work with Mencaide and McNastee. So I can’t really remember that far back. But he always stood out to me as a rock-rap dude that always had these giant sounding songs that I admired. As you may know, this album actually came about as the result of a crowdfunder I held back in 2013. One of the perks was an E.P. fully produced, mixed, mastered, and cover art from me. I was totally pumped when he showed me that support and immediately could envision the size of the record we were going to undertake. I’m building a brand new, beastly production computer right now, and the final mixes of Intrinzik’s record will be down on it. I feel like it’s full circle because he literally locked in this E.P. in the crowdfunder that paid for my FIRST machine. So it’s like cosmic bookends; from needing help, to self-efficiency. I feel like that’s also a major tone on the record.

Can you describe the production using only your currently craving for dinner as the lead metaphor?

Crossworm: I already ate. Which still fits metaphorically. Because the next step is a giant shit! The production will shit all over everything! Including what other people are craving for dinner. I’m a f*cking beast on the production, unapologetically.

As a hip-hop fan, how would you listen to UGHLY?

Crossworm: It doesn’t play like a hip-hop record, man. Intrinzik is a beast lyrically and obviously he raps but this is something else entirely. It’s not hip-hop in that kind of sense at all, especially in a modern/current sense of term. Rap music is a disgusting embarrassment of its former self, and I’d rather do push-ups into my own vomit after swallowing dogshit, than listen to popular rap music. I know over a hundred dope hip-hop artists, so don’t get me confused. But as far as content of this album, I wouldn’t call it hip-hop. To me it’s more culturally punk in a rebellious sense. But how would I listen to it? I walk everywhere! I’m always locked in my ATHM50 headphones; typically my red pair with the coiled cable. (I have three pair of these.) I listen to WAV files when I can get them because it’s my lifestyle and my job to care about high quality. An MP3 is a tenth of the actual recording quality and I’ve trained my ears to hear the difference.

So I would say that it’s a short listen for the kind of walks I go on. I would definitely bump it when I need to feel motivated and get where I’m going. I would play it on the way to my office/studio back to back with my last record. Because I actually make my music for me to enjoy like that. INT’s record was no different from front to finish!


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